January 11, 2015

"I’d be happy with a 1/4″ thicker iPhone that lasted for 2 or 3 days."

Says Instapundit. I disagree. Thinner is better as long as you can get through the day. A once-a-day routine is easier to follow than an every-other-day or every-third-day routine, so you don't really gain that much from a > 1 day battery life. Not saying a longer battery wouldn't be nice, but the super-thin iPhone is lovely and delightful. 1/4″ thicker would be about twice as thick!

37 comments:

B said...

Routine is still once a day. That extra 1/4" is insurance in case of unforseen usage or time away from a charger.

Current battery life is good enough for a day, but just barely

chickelit said...

Men and women disagree on girth and staying power.

richlb said...

B is right. When my phone lasted about 36 hours, I still charged it every night. Then on days where I went heavy on usage, I could still make it to the end of the day and not need to charge. The one I have now won't make it to bed time if I use it a lot. I end up having to juice it just a bit more on the drive home to make it on those days. It's annoying, and I doubt anyone would care about the extra 1/4".

Peggy Coffey said...

My Samsung gALAXY S5 lasts at least 3 days with heavy use. But it's an android.

mishu said...

There's no rule stating you can't charge it every day. NiCAD batteries are long gone.

madAsHell said...

Battery. Schmattery. I just wish I had a lanyard on mine.

Gahrie said...

1) I have literally, never owned a cell phone. It is possible to live without them.

2) From what I understand, there is not much left to gain in battery life. The engineers need to work on the other end, reducing the amount of energy the phones need to operate.

Carl Pham said...

Of course girls want it to be cuter and boys want it to be beefier. What else is new?

rhhardin said...

Doesn't the battery snap out, like a camera? Just carry an extra and swap.

I've never investigated though, not having a cell phone.

jr565 said...

You have to sleep sometime. Who would use their phone for 72 hours straight?

Michael K said...

I have a case which is another battery. Works fine.

PB said...

Hint: Ad-on battery...

Ignorance is Bliss said...

Gahrie said...

From what I understand, there is not much left to gain in battery life.

There is no upper limit on the amount to gain in battery life, as long as you don't limit the size of the battery. Obviously there are practical limits, but the point of the comment is there are people who would take more battery for more battery life.

etbass said...

I'm with the Professor. Routine of daily overnight charging is easy to manage. Long day of air flights and connections can strain this but airports have places to re-charge.

PuertoRicoSpaceport.com said...

Rather than longer battery life I would prefer tin cans and string to an iphone.

Or any other apple product.

John henry

PuertoRicoSpaceport.com said...

I have a Samsung s5. I use it a lot, mainly data.

It has never not lasted the entire day. I just charge at night while I sleep.

I can't understand why anyone would prefer an iPhone to an android.

other than to make an "I'm cool" statement.

John henry

Paul said...

iPhones for iSheep. My HTC Max One is super slim and the battery is never below 50% at the end of the day unless I have the navigation on for a long period.

And I enjoyed mine for a year before Apple could get it together to make a proper size phone.

Gahrie said...

There is no upper limit on the amount to gain in battery life, as long as you don't limit the size of the battery

But Althouse was limiting the size of the battery. The whole point of her post was that she disagreed with Instapundit's opinion that he would like a bigger battery. She suggested someone should develop a better battery. my point was that we have pretty much developed the best battery possible, and that we should therefor work the other side of the problem, the power demand from the device.

EDH said...

Fonzie: Hey, Cunningham, which is cooler? The mirrors up like this at an angle or down like this, straight?

Richie: Well, I think you can see better with them down at an angle.

Fonzie: Hey, I don't wanna see where I've been. I wanna see how cool I look getting there!

jaed said...

What I'd like is a phone small enough that you don't need a Little Red Wagon to haul it around in. I exaggerate only slightly.

Where did all the phone manufacturers get the idea that everyone wanted to try to jam a tablet into their front pocket, along with wallet and keys? Just a phone. Small. Light. Smartphones are nice, but I don't need a 6" screen on a phone - particularly if it's also got an inch of bezel on each side.

And this would also help with battery life! The screen is a big power-eater.

EMD said...

A lot of people choose Apple products because they practically invented the developer/app market.

Lot more to be had than Android.

That said, the difference is somewhat negligible.

I have an iPhone 6. Thinner is better. And we never really live too far away from a charging opportunity.

I also have an Apple simply because my work (almost) requires Apple hardware and software. I have a work laptop and a home iMac.

And I am totally ingrained (and possibly brainwashed, I will admit) in using Mac products.

Ann Althouse said...

I get iPhones because I get Apple products wherever I can and have done so for 30 years. I'm not trying to be cool, just sticking with what's been good all these years. And I've never been lured by anything else seeming interestingly better.

Original Mike said...

It's a phone, not your freakin' pacemaker.

Grundoon said...

My employer pays for my iPhone. I had choices, but went with the iPhone a few years ago because of the number of apps.

Billy Oblivion said...

Gahrie said:
2) From what I understand, there is not much left to gain in battery life. The engineers need to work on the other end, reducing the amount of energy the phones need to operate.

They can't, at least not much. There are hard physical limits on turning battery power into radio signals. You can change the equations by using longer/better/aimed antennas, but again Althouses of the world screw it up for the rest of us by insisting that physics is subject to preference and whim.

Lionheart said...

There are iPhone cases a quarter of an inch thick which double the battery life of the iPhone. Insty should buy one. Doubles the battery life, protects the iPhone - what's not to like? (Mophie, etc).

Kirk Parker said...

madAsHell,

"I just wish I had a lanyard on mine."

NO kidding!

The best argument for the assertion that cell-phone designers do not ever use the products they design is this: a lanyard-attachment point did not PRECEDE a built-in camera by at least one generation.

JSD said...

My LG flip phone goes one week between charges. There was a NYT article that retro phones are now cool.

Larry J said...

Form should follow function. I'd rather have longer battery life for those times when it isn't convenient to plug in than a slightly slimmer phone. That's just my personal preference.

SeanF said...

rhhardin: Doesn't the battery snap out, like a camera? Just carry an extra and swap.

On an iPhone, no. The case is sealed and cannot be opened up by the end-user.

On an Android phone, yes.

With the caveat that Android is open so it's possible that some manufacturer somewhere is selling an Android phone that's also sealed, but the standard is that you can just pop a cover off and replace the battery.

caplight45 said...

My two favorite law prof bloggers at odds and loggerheads. How can I resolve the inner turmoil caused by this conflict of opinions?

RonF said...

I have a Galaxy 5 Android phone. I charge it about once every 2 days. It's a pain in the a$$ to have to charge my phone every day, which is what I had to do with my last phone. And the Galaxy is pretty thin. So I vote for not having to charge my phone every day, and I'll be glad to have a little more heft to it if need be.

Sigivald said...

If Reynolds wants a heavier, thicker phone with more battery, he can make that happen.

They sell battery cases that do just that.

(They're not super popular, because almost nobody cares, in practice, and they show it by not using such things.

It's like "removable batteries". A few geeks and alleged power-users say they want it, and even they seem to never do it in practice. All it takes is one flaky battery cover (1G Droid?) to sour one on that "feature".

Also, I don't believe for a second that Ms. Coffey's S5 lasts three days of "heavy use"; nobody else sees that.

Perhaps three days of moderate use for an hour or two a day?)

Sigivald said...

Sean F said: On an Android phone, yes.

With the caveat that Android is open so it's possible that some manufacturer somewhere is selling an Android phone that's also sealed, but the standard is that you can just pop a cover off and replace the battery.


The Google Android phone (Nexus 6) is sealed, if "sealed" means "you have to take the phone apart to replace it".

So, I guess "somebody" would be ... Google.

Just like Apple's phones, which are replaceable, if you pop the phone open with tools.

(Also: The Xperia E3 and, on a spot check, every current Sony phone? Nope.

Checking the list of non-bargain Android phones at AT+T's site...

The LG G2? Not removeable.

HTC One? Nope.

Moto X2? Nuh uh.

Maybe it's just "cheap phones and Samsungs" that are replaceable anymore?)

jr565 said...

So suppose we had a phone that had the same form factor as the old cell phones of the 80's, those huge blocky phones? But had 10 days of battery life. would a lot of people prefer that phone to thin phones that only got a day of battery life?

pst314 said...

We keep running into these different preferences:
Men buy pants with big functional pockets.
Women by pants with tiny pockets that do not affect the look of the garment.
To each their own.

David Davis said...

Does this matter at all?